tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post8466303750285533558..comments2024-02-28T02:18:33.635-08:00Comments on Siri's World Presents The Dissenting Opinion: Child Prostitution In Marshall County KansasJuli Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-65780556507258290132019-10-19T15:25:32.162-07:002019-10-19T15:25:32.162-07:00The minor involved is probably no longer a minor. ...The minor involved is probably no longer a minor. The case did not involve her father, or any of her relatives. It involved an honor student at Marysville High School, in Kansas. Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-83059264735607766042019-09-20T08:56:30.237-07:002019-09-20T08:56:30.237-07:00I "minor" in question does have family p...I "minor" in question does have family problems, in the sole custody of her grandma because her "father" is a registered sex offender, not a rumor neither, it's a matter of public record. As for Miss Caine, I do believe she's deserves to be where she's at. She knew right from wrong yet still committed a terrible act. It's just a shame how much parents really know about their children. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-49992005350247580042018-03-14T11:36:34.661-07:002018-03-14T11:36:34.661-07:00Christopher, I appreciate your comment and your op...Christopher, I appreciate your comment and your opinion here on my site, but did you call her defense attorney and offer to testify? If you are trying to tell me that the matter was not investigated thoroughly enough, I agree. Unfortunately, I think the evidence pointed to guilt on her part, but I do not think she woke up one morning and said to herself, "I'm bored and I need cash. I think I'll prostitute an eighth grader today." There is obviously more to this picture than Marshall County was shown, and I think the entire problem was not effectively addressed. It was crazy to attempt to convince parents here that Miranda, alone, was the whole problem, and equally crazy to say the problem was solved by making her take the rap, all by herself. Laura McNish was eager to pin the problem on one person and pretend that there is not a cultural and moral disconnect here that made Miranda think that such behavior is acceptable, and I was also told by some Marshall County folks that "this sort of thing happens in all public schools". That is simply not so. Marysville is quite unique in that regard.Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-25372058797105488912018-03-13T21:32:19.827-07:002018-03-13T21:32:19.827-07:00I know the minor in this case and if you knew her ...I know the minor in this case and if you knew her you would understand that she is innocent and that anyone that takes advantage of any one underage should be punished period ...Christopher H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-54070982980449450892016-01-27T08:18:46.042-08:002016-01-27T08:18:46.042-08:00No one knew? That can't be, because someone ob...No one knew? That can't be, because someone obviously knew! What about the "customers"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-5571166864960811572015-11-19T14:11:10.395-08:002015-11-19T14:11:10.395-08:00My friend has received therapy for his behavior an...My friend has received therapy for his behavior and has taken multiple tests that suggest he is not likely to reoffend. When I first made his acquaintance we became friends quickly and I did not find out about his offense for a couple of months. With that said I will not judge him or not be his friend because of his past. <br />At MES & MHS you are yaght not to stand dy and let people either be bullied or let them be alone. That is why I became his friend. They discourage bullying and isolation at my previous school Highland Park High School and my current school Washburn Rural High School.<br />My parents raised me not to be discriminative or unintelligible. <br />When I said that people from other countries don't know who people from other countries are I was talking in general. You are not privileged in that the laws don't apply to you. You are privileged to know people from Paris. I am privileged to know people from Spain and Portugal.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-38979303720653807602015-11-19T13:28:50.327-08:002015-11-19T13:28:50.327-08:00One more thing: we are not "under" the s...One more thing: we are not "under" the state. We ARE the state. We are the taxpayers, we are the voters, we are the citizens. If "the state" decides to do bad things, it is up to us to change it. WE are responsible for the government, not the other way around.Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-19569971676324832142015-11-19T13:22:34.766-08:002015-11-19T13:22:34.766-08:00I actually do know a few people who live in Paris,...I actually do know a few people who live in Paris, and other parts of France. Be that as it may, I have never thought of myself as "privileged" in such a way that the laws do not apply to me. That's where a lot of Kansans, not only Marshall County, make their mistake. Many of them believe that federal laws don't apply to them, because they have never spent a significant amount of time outside of Kansas, and have never had to establish themselves anywhere else. When I moved here, and wanted the local schools to obey federal law, and was told by the principal of one school that the law didn't apply to him (!!!) I was offended and annoyed. He sincerely believed that he didn't have to obey the law, either! He very grudgingly changed his opinion when the ACLU contacted him. The fact that I had to contact the ACLU in the first place still makes me kinda mad. I hate people who think they do not have to obey the laws of the country where their bodies occupy space. The Miranda Cain case is just one more example: we have people in Marshall County who honestly think she should not be punished because the victim was not well loved by her parents! Is there no end to the obscene corruption of justice here? Kansas is unique in that regard; is it cultural? <br /><br />I know you've probably heard this before, but I am going to say it again, anyways. People who commit sex crimes usually do not change. If your friend hurt someone that way in the past, he or she is probably always going to type of person who will commit a sex offense. Better not to be involved with that person. Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-35524283825768013752015-11-19T09:46:19.347-08:002015-11-19T09:46:19.347-08:00Why should I rethink about having a friend that ha...Why should I rethink about having a friend that has to register? You think that because a person has an obligation like that because they made a bad choice, they are not a good person? If you think that you need to rethink about yourself. Most likely you have made some mistakes. Yes not as bad as the case of Miranda or my friend. Do your mistake make you a bad person? No they make you human. Humans make mistakes! Not once has there been a person who has never made a mistake. <br />Yes the victim is underage, yes. Because of this the case is that much worse.<br />In any city people will not care who is popular in another city. Just like if I were to go to Paris they wouldnt know who you are or who I am. They would likely know who our president and our celebrities are. Thats just how the world is. To be known widely you have to do some serious good or go the negative route. I am not saying that she did this as a way to become better known. <br />Prevention of this crime is important. Just like prevention of any crime is. If you wanted to just get rid of crime just start executing all criminals. Lets use Colorado as an example. They legalized marijuana but there is still the underground for selling it there. You cannot stop all crime of one type, you can only reduce it.<br />We are not the state. We are under the state. We so what the state tells us to do. Yes we do come up with most of the things the state tells us but they get to decide what is up for review to become a law.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-47346031088870669272015-11-19T08:51:33.814-08:002015-11-19T08:51:33.814-08:00You have a friend who has to register? You might w...You have a friend who has to register? You might want to re-think that! You are not going to know anything about the victim from the news because she is underage. But really, what so we need to know, besides that she is underage, and that Marysville has a population that exploits such things? I do not need to study the background and circumstances of every underage abuse victim before I determine that there is a problem. As for manipulating the court system, that is one of the reasons we have the media. The more the outside world knows about Marshall County, Kansas, and its shenanigans, the harder it will be fore Marshall County to play favorites in court. Marshall County is accustomed to using darkness as a shield, in order to violate the rights of others. Miranda's supporters and enablers were counting on that. They are horrified that the ticket has been partially cancelled,and she is still in jail. They also horrified that her scholarships have been withdrawn. They were unaware that the rest of the world is not in favor of allowing a "popular" person to abuse a child no one happens to like!<br /><br /><br />Outside of Marysville, you will find that no one really cares who is popular in Marysville; and right now, Kansas is looking an awful lot like doggie doo-doo to the rest of the nation and world. Cases like Miranda's is one of the reasons. Do you think the court can afford to be manipulated in a case like this?Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-33067880691224421172015-11-19T08:28:22.462-08:002015-11-19T08:28:22.462-08:00I also know the courts can be manipulated. In a me...I also know the courts can be manipulated. In a mentoring program that I am in one of the mentors grew up selling drugs and often went to court. He only went to prison once. The reason for that is because he could talk his way out. The reason he went to prison is because he realized that he needed to change his life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-65655566113229954332015-11-19T08:25:11.210-08:002015-11-19T08:25:11.210-08:00I know so much about the registration process beca...I know so much about the registration process because when I came to Topeka the first friend I made here has to register. I asked him after I found out about Miranda. I don't think she will be found not guilty. I hope she does. I am concerned for the victim. I just don't know anything about her. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-78766765499670323322015-11-18T22:09:49.379-08:002015-11-18T22:09:49.379-08:00And Kidd Luck; why are you not concerned about her...And Kidd Luck; why are you not concerned about her victim? Isn't the victim the important person here? Isn't prevention of that kind of crime more important that Citizen Cain's ability to get arrested again, for the same thing? Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-15086541809762421792015-11-18T22:06:26.921-08:002015-11-18T22:06:26.921-08:00The state IS the people, Kidd. You and I are part ...The state IS the people, Kidd. You and I are part of the collective that labeled her charges, and will label her after she goes to court. The case the court has against her is pretty strong, too. Why do you think she will not be found guilty? Do you think justice can or will be perverted, because some people in Marshall County want crime to be okay, if a "favorite" commits a crime? I watched once, while someone was sure an innocent would be found guilty, just for reasons of bias and prejudice. That "someone" even went to the extent of promising all of this defendant's haters that he would be "going to prison." In the end, there was no evidence against him, and the jury found him not guilty. The person who was sure she could pervert justice was unsuccessful. Do you really think that Kansas cannot seat a jury that will be blind to the evidence? Kansas is getting a reputation, lately, for human trafficking. Anyone who really cares about Marysville, Marysville High School, Marshall County, or children will probably want to see justice here; not a win for Cain. <br /><br /><br />How on earth DO YOU know all that stuff about registering with the sex offender registry, anyways?Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-74169665600183344102015-11-18T20:28:28.308-08:002015-11-18T20:28:28.308-08:00Just because the state labels her one way doesn...Just because the state labels her one way doesn't mean the people of the state have to maintain that label. If so is found guilty she will have to register every three months from her birth month and pay a $20 fee every three months for the rest of her life. If she is found innocent what will her label be?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-77421420326548119852015-11-18T13:56:33.481-08:002015-11-18T13:56:33.481-08:00Since Miranda entered a "not guilty" ple...Since Miranda entered a "not guilty" plea, instead of pleading guilty, she will be on trial some time this Spring, under the very label you do not want used. I am just looking at the chain of events that led to her arrest, and I think, when someone shows no interest in being anything other than what she is, it is okay to label her after the manner of her actions. If she is found guilty.....keep in mind, the state has a very strong case against her......what do you think her label will be, in the sex offender registry and in prison? <br /><br /><br />I am not at all surprised. Some of the folks in Marysville are pretending to be surprised, by my opinion is that they are all just upset that they were caught, and did not get away with everything.Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-14341716150333191452015-11-18T10:25:20.713-08:002015-11-18T10:25:20.713-08:00What I mean by "she will become" a traff...What I mean by "she will become" a trafficker if we "label her" as one is she will likely feel like that is what other people see her as and how she should be. When my friend down here in Topeka had attempted suicide everyone made him feel like he should actually do it. This is because they heard about it and talked about how horrible he was for both trying to kill himself and for failing to kill himself. <br />When people give someone a "label" that tends to become how the person sees themselves. All I am saying when I say dont label her as a trafficker so she doesnt feel like that is what she has to do with her life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-44078875037278142772015-11-17T20:42:04.032-08:002015-11-17T20:42:04.032-08:00"If we label her as a trafficker, that is wha..."If we label her as a trafficker, that is what she will BECOME"? Kidd, that ship sailed and left the harbor, already! Citizen Cain became an human trafficker before she was even arrested! And yesterday, she entered a plea. I do believe it will be in the paper, tomorrow. Don't blame me for the label; it's the legal parlance for the crime she committed! Also, I have yet to hear about any remorse, and I have yet to see Marshall County, as a whole, wake up and smell the coffee on this issue. As long as Marshall County wants to see Miranda Cain as innocent, and even blame the victim, Marshall County will be a haven for human traffickers.Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-86560852931248310832015-11-17T13:17:18.061-08:002015-11-17T13:17:18.061-08:00I do not believe that desperation jusyifies what s...I do not believe that desperation jusyifies what she did. Desperation pushes people to do things that they usually would not do. I'm not saying forget what she did or the victims. What I am saying is don't label her because of a mistake. Don't let her become her mistake. If we label her as a trafficker that is what she will become.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-61417555032291317832015-11-17T12:58:42.924-08:002015-11-17T12:58:42.924-08:00So you think some sort of "desperation" ...So you think some sort of "desperation" justifies ruining the life of a younger school-mate? I am going to have to say that I disagree with you. Someone I once knew from this part of Kansas, who is now deceased, did something similar out of "desperation". She lost her children because of it. When she popped out "replacement" children, Marshall County was the only place she could live without having to worry about the "replacements" getting taken away, as well. Why? Because Marshall County practices selective justice! And I have had my share of difficult times, too. Never, in a million lifetimes, would I consider "desperation" a reason to teach a child to sell something that should never be for sale. If Marshall County and Marysville High School feel that this is alright, for some reason....simply "forgive" Citizen Cain, forget all about the victim(s), and sweep the matter under the proverbial rug, Marshall County is obscene. Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-72696505694631455522015-11-17T05:09:38.252-08:002015-11-17T05:09:38.252-08:00Yes there is a chance that someone who works for t...Yes there is a chance that someone who works for the school would have known about this. That does not mean that the entire administration did. I knew half of them when I went to school there, the people that I knew would not just let this kind of thing happen if they knew about it. Me and my friend got into a fight on school grounds once and they put us both in detention for several days. My friend was being bullied and they did what they could but they can not control everything that the students do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-12946384124984267022015-11-17T05:00:38.046-08:002015-11-17T05:00:38.046-08:00Yes there are very few places that people like tha...Yes there are very few places that people like that are in Marysville. That does not necessarily mean that the person works for the school. I do not know what reason she would have for doing something like this but she had to have been desperate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787838594483861075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-68097757728879644942015-11-16T23:31:58.613-08:002015-11-16T23:31:58.613-08:00It is clear that you are I see the roles of commun...It is clear that you are I see the roles of community and individual in different ways. I think that if a community as small as Marysville has a high school student who commits a crime as serious as human trafficking, the entire community should look at itself and ask itself how and why that happened. If Marysville fails to do that, it will happen again. Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-56675227343872606942015-11-16T22:58:59.881-08:002015-11-16T22:58:59.881-08:00"One person's actions do not define anyon..."One person's actions do not define anyone else, but themselves."<br /><br />She traveled just like anyone else to places like Manhattan and Lincoln. Also, with the added capability of the internet, finding an adult like this can be as easy as searching. Just because she did something wrong doesn't mean the whole place is bad. You can only control ones actions and decisions so far because they are still an individual of opinion.<br /><br />I'm not saying you are wrong. If they have the evidence to prove that she did it, then by all means, go for it. However, do NOT group everyone else from around the same area saying that we basically contributed to the situation especially when we had no idea in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6711155841090501572.post-508295713531230622015-11-16T21:09:13.066-08:002015-11-16T21:09:13.066-08:00To anon 2:43 (pst).......just this: CHRIST! (that ...To anon 2:43 (pst).......just this: CHRIST! (that WAS his last name, wasn't it?) I never changed my surname upon marriage. My first husband is deceased, and our children bear his surname. When I re-married, I hyphenated. I do not use my entire, hyphenated, long form, birth certificate name for this blog. As a writer and an artist, I have used a couple of trademarks and pen names, too. So do many others. I also never stated where my daughter attended school. <br /><br />Why are you so concerned about being "judged", and why does Marysville have such a taboo about it? There are only about 3 or 4 thousand people in Marysville, and about 10 thousand, or so, in Marshall County. If this happened in a big city, you would be correct in your assertion that it does not truly represent the population, but it as it happens, the smaller the number of people, the bigger per capita percentage.Juli Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263408768438573702noreply@blogger.com